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Tired of Being for Others?
By Norman Grubb

Now the danger arises of us thinking that we must rush about being not for ourselves but for others. By no means. Just go on being yourself and don't give a thought about being for others. Just run your own life, accept yourself, be yourself, love yourself! Appreciate that you are a special person, specially gifted by God. For what? That's not your business. Don't try and run His business! Get on with your daily occupations and putting all your heart into them. But of course, there's a catch in that. You are not really yourself, but Christ in you, Christ the real you. And He is for others and He knows exactly how He will reach others by you in your special life's situation and with your special equipment, of which you may not even be conscious, and probably good that you are not! If you try to fuss around being something for others, for your neighbors, for good works in your church, your town or out to the world, you may be so occupied in the wrong direction that He will have to do some more work on you to get you where He really wants you!  

He is love in us, other-love, so you just can't help yourself. Without any kind of human effort, you just find yourself drawn into maybe love-contacts with naturally unpleasant neighbors; you find that folks somehow get in touch with you, because you are free from fussing about your affairs or theirs, just free to love, not to condemn or judge or try to change them, and one or another will be coming to you and pouring out their burdens. But when folks do find that you are available, you have to beware against being back under the law. The Spirit is original in each of us and He will get His original plan into action by you in some way which frees you from man-pleasing. So, we are back on the usual paradox: do nothing which stems from self-effort. But in being a do-nothing, you will actually be a do-everything, because the Real Doer whose aim is to get the world back to Himself will surely be busy by you in His own way and time. Yet watch even there when we say "He will be busy by you," because times will come when you will appear to be useless on the shelf, as if God has forgotten you (how crazy can we be!), and the only word left which can suit you is, "Be still and know that I am God." Very well, then, be still; and if God wants to be lazy in you, let Him be! 

Excerpt taken from Who Am I? by Norman Grubb

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Ukrainian Brother

This below is a message to me from Alexander Malashkin, of the Ukraine. He has been writing me for a few months now, complimenting and liking my writings, but this is the first time he has told me his story. How wonderful it is that the Lord has opened doors and hearts all over the world!!! I am sitting here in my little apartment at my little desk on my little laptop, and just weeping with astonishment at  what God hath wrought.  Even now it is exceedingly abundantly above all I could ask or think, and we haven t even gotten to the full deal yet! This is the stuff!!! This is what we are about!!!! I ve been reading Norman talking about CTS wanting to see Jesus Christ running about in black bodies  =- well here is Jesus Christ, (and I know Norman would be slapping his knee and CT would be plucking his banjo in praise) running around in Ukrainian bodies!!! And Dutch bodies, and Norwegian bodies, and Russian bodies, and bodies from every nation of the earth   the Columbian and Ecuadorian and Brazilian bodies in South America, the Thai bodies and Malaysian bodies and the Indian bodies in Asia, we could go on and on ... Kenyans, Tanzanians, Sudanese, South Africans ... The Spirit has brought back to my mind an event I ve mentioned before, in Jun 1973 when Janis and I were on our way to California in our little putt-putt 1959 VW bus, sent out by the Spirit on Hebrews 11:8    By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed;  and he went out, not knowing whither he went.  We stopped at a rest stop in Oklahoma. I got out of the bus to stretch my legs and felt the great wind that was blowing toward the east, which had been impeding our progress because of the big JESUS house on top of our bus, and suddenly was overtaken with an urgency, an urgency which has deepened since then and never left, but at the time when it struck me, I almost despaired of getting to California on time, before the Lord came back and everything was already over. I was a green newbie as much as anyone could be, but I wanted in on the harvest. I DID NOT WANT TO MISS OUT! Years and years went by   a whole lifetime for us all   our children have grown up and we have left our youthful days and we have plodded along and plodded along -- and now God has granted me to see the beginning of the Harvest that I know is coming across the face of the earth! I feel like Jesus in John 12 when Phillip said that some Greeks wanted to talk to Him. I think that s when it hit Him square in the chest, stunned His humanity, because He knew when the Gentiles came, it was HIS Time -- THAT was when He gave the great "corn of wheat fall into the ground and die" statement that we all live! It was John 12:20-27, that concluded with the statement, "Now is my soul troubled;  and what shall I say?  Father, save me from this hour:  but for this cause came I unto this hour." And now we have come to OUR hour! And for this cause we have come to this hour! "Father, glorify thy Name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again." I could go on all night, but here is Alexander Malashkin's testimony and my little reply:


Hi, Fred, I want to share with you how Christ found and saved me. I was growing up without a father, who abandoned us, with my mother, older sister and grandmother. My mother worked in three shifts, and she was often sick. 
My older sister, as I understand now, looking for somebody to meet her needs, got married, had a child, and then divorced her husband. Not having found an answer to her needs she started to sooth her pain with drinking and prostitution, and her life had a tragic end   she was killed. I was 11 then. 
All those situations had a direct influence on me and my life. Running away from pain and broken family, I moved into drugs and led a criminal way of life. I got married, we had a daughter, but my addiction was getting worth. 
Then my mother died, our marriage was going through a crisis   we were on the brink of a divorce. My criminal life brought serious problems with law, there also were problems in the criminal world, some of me so-called friends were killed in shoot-outs. As a result of that way of life I started to think about suicide, because I was absolutely confused and my life had no sense. And then Jesus came, as it s said that nobody s looking for God, but He knew me and allowed me to come to the end of myself to replace myself with Himself, so that it s not me, but Him, as Paul says,  it s not me who lives, but Christ lives in me . Though I was on the verge of disaster, He didn t let me fall and saved me, as Isaiah 51:1 says,  look to the rock from which you were hewn, and to the quarry from which you were digged . The Word of Christ moved into my heart abundantly through the testimony of my former friend who had believed. His Word became flesh, life, in me, and His life was revealed in a changed attitude and behavior, as I found out that I didn t need drugs and all that life I had lived. I restored my marriage, reconciled with people and started to preach God s grace to my addicted to drugs friends. And many turned to Christ and found freedom and salvation in Him. 
But it took a lot of time to understand that it s not me who is good and strong, but Him, it s His life in me. It s already 17 years since I ve been walking in unity with Him, and He has been carrying me in His life. Isaiah 46:4, I will carry you. I have made, and I will bear; I will carry and will save . God has given me people to share His life with. I am a pastor of a small church, and I also serve to a group of men with addictions. It s a privilege to share what Jesus has been doing in and through me. Blessed be His name! Alexander

My little reply:

I am so blessed and delighted to have received your story of your life and coming to Jesus. It is late at night here and I will not write long in this moment, but just this short word to tell you how wonderful it is to hear from you and what the Lord has done in your life. It is GLORY! I truly marvel at the TRUTH of Christ that is proven daily in my sight by brothers and sisters such as you, who though we are in different cultures, different political systems, different backgrounds, yet it is the same God in Christ, the same SAVING and DELIVERING TRUTH WORLDWIDE! It only confirms and strengthens each of our faiths to hear of the SAME HOLY SPIRIT saying the SAME EXACT THINGS in our inner being, no matter what our language, culture or background! Praise God! I am always astounded, even after 43 earth years of KNOWING the LORD, how ALL in ALL and UNIVERSAL He is, that is, that HE is the SAME LORD over all, in you and in me, and in all who call upon His Name! 
You are blessed and I am blessed with you, dear brother. Please stay in touch. Your life in Christ, He as YOU, blesses me beyond words. I have never thought about coming to your part of the world. I have only been out of the US a few times, mostly to Canada, and once to England, but I would treasure one day being able to visit the Ukraine, should God will it. Thank you so much for writing me with the highlights of your story! Blessed be the Name of the Lord! All my love in Christ, Fred!

The Coming Mighty Wind

By Linda Bunting and Harriet Wearren

In 1973, the year John and I, along with Wade and Harriet Wearren moved into our new homes on Poplar Lane, I asked Norman Grubb if there was anyone else on the planet that he shared with, Paul's mystery of the gospel in Col.1:28 and Galatians 2:20. His answer was "Oh yes, my dear, I visit folk all over the country." So, I asked him if we could have a house party and invite them over for a week-end of sharing. In 1974 we hosted 40 people, the next year 80 and from that time, we outgrew the house and began meeting yearly outside in a tent with a crowd that grew to 250 coming from all over the world.

After 40 plus years, the Spirit clearly spoke to us saying; "Shut Louisville Down." Age was taking a toll on us and since we were sensitive to the Spirits ways, Harriet and I agreed to have lunch to discuss what we thought He was trying to tell us. She began by saying she thought we should be finished. Then she asked me: "How does that make you feel?" To which I replied, "It makes me very sad but I take to heart how He is moving in you." We parted saying to each other, "We will trust HIM to change one of us." After a few days He said to me: "Unto every thing there is a season," which gave me peace that this was His word, to us, to do. We decided to have one last time together and then let it go.

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The Sole Purpose of Our Creation

By Norman Grubb Union Life Magazine

It has been over three years since I laid bare my heart and mind in the book YES I AM (which I thought might be my last before I join the Hebrews Eleven “cloud of witnesses”). In it I had sought to do as Priscilla and Aquila did for Apollos: “expound the way of God more perfectly.”

But in some areas I now feel that I did not adequately underline certain vital points. So I set out in sixteen sections some extra sharings in the hope of giving certain areas of the book further clarity [continued]

The original is on the Norman Grubb here.

As I read this today, I've added just a little of the thoughts Our Father shared as I read.

I pray you are blessed beyond measure, your cups run over, and you get a revelation of your true identity. Amen

The Fifth Dimension - All Humans are Incarnations of Deity
I will add the table I mention later today.

At the beginning of today's recording, I share a little background and context.

"Thanks be to God which gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ" (I Corinthians 15:57). 

When God is pleased to reveal His Son to us, we will learn that 
Victory is not a thing, but a Person; that Victory is not an experience, but a 
Man; that God does not give me a thing called victory, but has given me 
His Son in the place of victory in order to be my Victory. Then Victory will 
never be future-tense and far-away, but Ever Present and Now. For Victory 
is Christ. And Victory lives within you. 

Thus, Victory has nothing to do with the devil, and everything to do 
with Christ. Since most Christians have more faith, assurance and 
reverence for the devil than they do for the Lord Jesus, it is easy to see why so 
many are defeated.

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This evening I read from the booklet, Touching the Invisible by Norman Grubb. I read chapter 8 - How to maintain unity. This is relevant to me because the previous evening, I enjoyed conversation with the Beer-N-Bible group and found myself speaking with great boldness and liberty, the truth as I now know it. And as a result, one gentleman in the group bristled and said I was haughty, because I said I didn’t go to a church building on a regular basis. I was not insulted at all, and my brethren at the table sought to smooth over ruffled feathers as best they could. On my drive home, the Holy Spirit reminded me of His fruits and one in particular - gentleness. I thought I could have been a little more gentle with the chap, and perhaps in future, Spirit willing, I will be. But, and it’s the Holy But (see The Rest of the Gospel: When the Partial Gospel has Worn You Out for the reference), and another reminder from Fred Pruitt’s post today that the gospel is offensive to some, that when truth spoken, clashes with long-held beliefs, then there is this bristling or question asking or some kind of response. When this happens, I know I’ve hit gold and by the reaction I know that their spirit is stirred to ask and respond to my offense. But. And, this excerpt I read aloud tonight is for my benefit, so I may listen again over a few times on my commutes in the next week or so. So I may learn whatever lesson the Spirit wants to teach me about accepting that Christ in me, is working just as well as Christ in my brother, and I should take a lesson from Jesus in Matthew, the plank example, that if want to pick the speck out of my brothers’ eye, I should first remove the tree trunk from mineAt the conclusion of my reading, I share a little of my own story, and how I came to learn that God revealed His son in me.

Dead not divorced

This recording helped many of us see God's plan for all his children. We hope you hear too.

Wade Wearren simply shares his faith in action. Recorded at the men's gathering at the Buntings, 10/17/2014.

"Walk before me and be blameless" - Genesis 17:1

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"When the women saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye... she took some and ate it" - Genesis 3:6

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"The death he died, he died to sin once for all" - Romans 6:10

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"I know that nothing good lives in me" - Romans 7:18

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"We were by nature objects of wrath" - Ephesians 2:3

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"Jesus... said to peter, Out of my sight, Satan!'" - Matthew 16:23

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"We... who have the firstfruits of the Spirit groan inwardly as we wait... for our adoption" - Romans 8:23

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Summit Living, Jan 9, The New Creation by @NormanGrubb: "They are not of the world" - John 17:16

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Summit Living, Jan 8, The New Creation by @NormanGrubb: "We proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with" - 1 John 1:2. Links today:  Summit Living at Bookfinder | Norman Grubb

I visited City Union Mission this afternoon; Gift-in-kind application and IT Meetings. Spontaneous visit with Dennis Ellis, Church Relations Specialist. Truly eye opening.

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Notes from Norman

By Norman P. Grubb

They gave us a magnificent headquarters, in England, for our mission. Quite center for fellowship and so on. I was there when it was opened, and I said, "Does the Holy Spirit come out of it?" That is a good question to ask of any edifice, that contains God's people. Does the Holy Spirit come out of it? If not, the place is not of God.

We have to watch that. What's Union Life? Nothing!!!! What's a magazine? Nothing!!!!Unless it is Christ coming through. You have got to watch against "Union Lifers" and stuff like that, sects or something. That moment they become death. The point is does: life come out?

Don't judge. Leave the person to God, if we think they have made a mistake. Let God take them the mistaken way. Certainly people would have thought Abraham was a fool. He probably didn't tell Sarah until it was all over. Jesus was in the eyes of the world a fool. He died a criminal according to world standards. Jesus died a failure. He didn't leave one success behind Him on earth. His success was only in another dimension, in the resurrection. So the lesson to us is, "Don't judge!"

So James is saying (his whole letter does) faith is something which produces. We know that now, we do not take condemnation. We are producers. If we are not, the Holy Spirit better get showing us. So faith is production. Faith is a new life lived, which is the inner background. This is not the same "as trembling as the devils”, but is not followed through by the devoured life.

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Summit Living, Jan 7, The New Creation by @NormanGrubb: "God... was please to reveal His Son in me" - Galatians 1:15-16

This verse has special meaning for me too. God chose to reveal His Son in me on 12/15/20016 in the chapter named "Gift of Misery" in the book, The Rest of the Gospel by Dan Stone.

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Summit Living, Jan 6, The New Creation by @NormanGrubb: "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me" - Galatians 2:20

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Summit Living, Jan 5, The New Creation by @NormanGrubb: ""Anyone born of God does not continue to sin" - 1 John 5:18

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Summit Living, Jan 4, The New Creation by @NormanGrubb: "I know who I have believed" - 2 Timothy 1:12 

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Summit Living by @NormanGrubb, New Creation, Jan 3: "It is by grace you have been saved, through faith" - Ephesians 2:8

I want to apologize to our listeners, I forgot that the when I posted a video, this would not automatically add an audio track without me adding it separately. Please forgive my mistake which I have rectified for Dec 31 - Jan 2 and will ensure that if I post a video, I also include the audio track too. Thanks for your patience.

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Summit Living, Selected Daily Readings, New Creation, Jan 2: "Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God" - 1 John 4:2

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Summit Living, Jan 1, The New Creation: "Unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven" - Matthew 18:3

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Summit Living, Dec 31, The Last Word: God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but the spirit of power, of love, and of self-discipline" - 2 Timothy 1:7

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Summit Living, Dec 30, Knowing God's Will: "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear" - 1 John 4:18

Summit Living, Dec 29, Knowing God's Will. "Those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God" - Romans 8:14

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